April 17

AP5 Stay Productive With Accountability Partners

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As an artist, it’s easy to get sidetracked, lose motivation and get overwhelmed with marketing, social media, the creative process itself and all the other things that go into being a professional artist. And all of this can be very draining and overwhelming. It’s so easy to lose sight of your goals and your track towards those goals.

On this episode I talk about accountability partnerships. This is something that has helped my career immensely. My guest today is my accountability partner, Mariana Tirsa. We have a great conversation about how we got together, and how we have helped each other reach our goals over the last year.

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Eyvindur Karlsson 0:00

You know, as an artist, it's easy to get sidetracked and to lose motivation and to get overwhelmed with all the different things that you need to be doing for your career. There are so many aspects. You have to be on top of marketing, you have to be on top of your socials, you have to be on top of the creative process. And all of this is so draining, and it can really overwhelm you. It's so easy to lose sight of your goals and your track towards those goals. So today, I'm going to talk about accountability partnerships. This is something that has helped my career immensely. And my guest today is my accountability partner, Mariana Tirsa. We have a great conversation about how we got together, and how we have helped each other reach our goals over the last year, so keep listening. It's gonna be awesome. Let's roll the intro.

Intro 1:13

This is the Artemist podcast where we turn into gold. Here's your host, Eyvindur Karlsson.

Eyvindur Karlsson 1:27

That's right, my name is Eyvindur Karlsson. You can call me Eyvi for short, because that's a lot easier. And this is the Artemist podcast, where we turn art into gold. And one of the things that has helped my career so much over the past year, as I mentioned in the intro, is having an accountability partner. And we're going to have a conversation about that today. And I encourage you to keep listening to the end because I have a little surprise that I spring on Mariana at the end, a little project that I'm... Well, a big project that I'm going to be putting together and I want her to keep me accountable for. Is that how you say that? I don't know, this is my second language. I'm sorry.

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Alright, so let's get into today's topic: Accountability partners. If you have ever felt overwhelmed, or you've struggled with keeping yourself accountable, I highly recommend you listen and you'll find a lot of actionable steps in here to starting your own accountability partnerships or mastermind groups. And it's going to help your career a lot i'm sure so don't go anywhere. Here is my conversation with Mariana Tirsa. Enjoy.

All right, welcome Mariana Tirsa to the show.

Mariana Tirsa 4:10

Thank you.

Eyvindur Karlsson 4:12

Now, we've known each other, sort of, for a while now. But this is the first time we're speaking in... Well, not in person. Hearing each other's voices, I guess.

Mariana Tirsa 4:25

Exactly. And we've been meaning to do it for a while and it's finally happened.

Eyvindur Karlsson 4:30

Yes.

Mariana Tirsa 4:31

We didn't realize it was going to happen publicly. But...

Eyvindur Karlsson 4:34

Hey, that's life. You never know.

But before we talk about our relationship, can you tell me and everybody listening about yourself and your journey as an artist?

Mariana Tirsa 4:49

Sure. Um, well, I'm an independent artist, I live in Austin, Texas. I'm from the southwest, from New Mexico. I create kind of a folk cosmicy, dreamy folk Americana sound. I'm interested a lot in kind of bringing together two genres of like a dreamy ethereal sound with a very kind of earthy, singer-songwriter, quality of music. And I'm also a mother, and a acupuncturist. And so I have the two dimensions of creativity and healing in my life.

Eyvindur Karlsson 5:33

Awesome. And so yeah, so you have a busy life?

Mariana Tirsa 5:38

Yes, I have a busy life.

Eyvindur Karlsson 5:40

As do we all, I guess, and that's sort of how we got to know each other is, I guess, in large part, because we're very busy. And it's hard to keep yourself accountable. And so I saw you in a Facebook group that we're both members of, and you were looking for an accountability partner. And that's what we've been doing for a while, even though for the past couple of months, I guess we've been slacking off a little bit.

Mariana Tirsa 6:11

Right.

Eyvindur Karlsson 6:13

But I think it has helped me a lot, having someone like outside of my personal realm, to be accountable to.

Mariana Tirsa 6:27

Yeah, I mean, I actually found it quite amazing that someone from all the way over in Iceland was going to be my accountability partner. I thought that was pretty amazingly great. Yeah, so I reached out, basically, I think I was maybe about a year ago, maybe a year and a half ago. I was just going through this period of time, where I was like... The music business side of how to like, as an independent artist, how to get yourself, your music released, and, you know, fans and all that... It was so much to do, that I found myself going: I don't really know how to make sure that I am going to do all the steps necessary. And you know, I was already doing things, but I realized that having somebody else that was working on similar tasks, maybe not at the same moment in time, or the same topic, but overall, having similar goals. Maybe together we can at least kind of nudge each other and say: How's this going? And so that was kind of where I said: Well, maybe I'll just... I didn't have anyone locally that was interested, or that I could ask about. So I said: Well just see if maybe there's someone else somewhere? And you responded.

Eyvindur Karlsson 7:52

So was that just where the idea came from just sort of occurred to you? Or have you heard about it somewhere else? Or?

Mariana Tirsa 7:57

No, it's... I think when I first decided to really get serious about my music, I started to kind of like self examine myself, and how I work best and I started to notice that I worked the best when I'm working with other people. And I'm not just kind of on my own. And that's actually one of the reasons I formed a band. I realized that if I had a group of people who are dependent on me getting things going, showing up places, you know, writing songs, getting gigs, that it was going to drive me when I was so like, distracted by my normal life responsibilities. If I knew I had all these people depending on me, that they were going to keep me accountable to my own dreams. So I realized: Well, if that's what works for me creatively, then that should be what works for me on the business side. So just being a lone ranger, I can't get a lot of momentum going. But when I work with other people in some way, then I'm more motivated. And I feel like I need to show up, not just for myself, but I need to show up for them to support them. So that was kind of my philosophy: Well, this is kind of how I work my best.

Eyvindur Karlsson 9:21

Yeah, exactly. I always say it's so much easier to fail on yourself than somebody else. You know, when when it's just you, it's so easy to say: Yeah, yeah, I'll get to that tomorrow. But if there's somebody who you have to be accountable to, even if it's a made up need to be accountable to them, it helps so much.

Mariana Tirsa 9:50

Yeah, I don't honestly know, if I would have been able to create as much as I created in the last five years, if I didn't have these people kind of waiting on me to take the next step every week. I really don't think I would have been able to.

Eyvindur Karlsson 10:05

No, and I agree. It's the same with... There are so many versions. I had never really thought about this when I saw your post in that group. But I thought: That's a great idea. And it certainly has helped me a lot.

That crowdfunding campaign that I did that was one of the things that I was accountable to you for?

Mariana Tirsa 10:32

Yeah.

Eyvindur Karlsson 10:34

Doing that really makes you accountable, because people have actually paid money, and you have to finish what you're doing. So that's another thing that really holds you accountable.

Mariana Tirsa 10:45

Yeah, I think there's something about bringing what you're doing into a shared space that changes it. It's kind of like getting married. You said the vows, you're doing it publicly. You gotta hold up your vows now.

Eyvindur Karlsson 11:05

Right. Exactly. Exactly. And so is this the first time that you've had this experience? You talked about having a band, but have you had other accountability partners, or been a member of a larger group, like a mastermind group, online or offline, or something like that?

Mariana Tirsa 11:47

I've been part of mastermind groups, but not in the music realm. More for my other job, my acupuncture work. What I have noticed is that, and some of those have been paid masterminds, and it feels like that's really useful. And often there's somebody who's kind of guiding and leading, and that's really great, to have somebody do that. And I think we live in a such a wonderful time where we can connect to people through forums and online mine and things, that we don't really have to pay for those things if we can just find other people with similar goals. So you are the first person that I have worked with in terms of an accountability partner in the music realm. Specifically, in terms of music, business side? And I was just thinking about it recently: Wow, I think I really need to kind of get back into what we were doing, and maybe even find somebody locally that I could have coffee with once a month and say: Oh, how's it going with your record release? You know, and just kind of hold each other in that kind of support.

Eyvindur Karlsson 12:41

Yeah. And we have been slacking off, but, you know, we still have that thing. And I'm actually, later I'm going to talk about something that I'm going to do, and you're gonna hold me accountable to that.

But before we go any further, maybe we should just go over, because we sort of skipped over a little bit. So what happened was you you put up this post in a group that is a kind of a mastermind group for indie musicians. It's just really big. So it's hard to kind of... Well, I mean, it's easy to sort of forget about it a little bit. But you put up that post there. And I responded and then basically, we created this private Facebook group, where we would post our goals, and a specific time frame for those goals. And then we would check in every week or so I think.

Mariana Tirsa 13:46

Yeah, it wasn't as... I think we have certain intentions in the beginning and then it kind of found its own little rhythm. And then it fell out of rhythm.

Eyvindur Karlsson 13:55

Sure, as things do. It's the same as with anything, you know. If you fall down you just get back up again.

Mariana Tirsa 14:02

That's right.

Eyvindur Karlsson 14:03

But of course, yeah, our plan was to do this once a month, I think. And that was a year ago, and we've not done that. But...

Mariana Tirsa 14:11

This counts as our first

Eyvindur Karlsson 14:14

Yes, this is a great start.

But that's basically what we did. And so we would tick off these things that we had gotten done, and we put up this list, you know. This is everything that I need to get done. The basic order we wanted to do it in. Basically a task list. It's a great project management tool. Especially because I think, as artists, it's very easy to set these goals, and then to just look at the big picture, and then not drill down too much. Because, at least for me, I always get stuck looking at the big picture instead of the details. And so to just drill this down, to be forced to sit down and drill down and say: Alright, in order to reach this goal that I have of, you know, finishing this crowdfunding campaign, first I need to come up with pledge ideas and this and that, and then just put all that down and be able to say: All right, so this is what I need to do, and then come in every week and say: Alright, so here's what I did this week. And not just put it down in your own little notebook, but actually put it somewhere where there's a person on the other end, who will say: Great. Or: You need to do more, or whatever it is. So that's basically what it was. And for me, I know, it was extremely helpful. What was your experience? And how has this furthered your journey and your career?

Mariana Tirsa 15:48

Well, I definitely felt like it was really helpful when we asked each other what our goals were for that... I think we set it up in three months. For the next three months, what are your top priorities and your top goals? And it helped me to, because I knew you had responded, or I had... I don't know who responded first, but it was like: Okay, he did the work. All right, now I gotta do the work. So, again, kind of made me like: Okay, take your time, and really think about this, because you asked him, and he did it.

And then I also found that, later on, maybe two or three weeks down the road, I'd be like: I don't know what I'm doing. And you know: Where am I with things? I could actually go back to our thread and go: Okay, right. I said that this is what I'm working on. And this is where I am. Oh, and this is where he's at. Okay, I'm going to check in with him. How's it going? So it kind of helped me reorient, sometimes, when I get just a little overwhelmed with everything I was doing. So like you said, it's a good tool management. It kind of tracks things.

And then also, I think that was really helpful is like, you know, like you were saying to help to drill down. I'm not sure if it was questions I asked or if it was just kind of like saying: Oh, that sounds... Oh, that's great that you're doing... It would just help you kind of go: Oh, and then I also need to do this step and this step.

Sometimes the conversation with each other would help us to kind of get clear on: Oh, there's these six other steps that I'm also doing that maybe I wrapped up as this one big step. But actually, there's a whole bunch of little steps that are really important too, right? Because I remember asking you questions about, like: Well, tell me about this one little thing that you're doing? You know?

Eyvindur Karlsson 17:38

Absolutely. And you also said... I remember this one question that you asked me at some point. Because I said one of my goals was to play more live shows. No, it was to tour other countries. And you said: Why?

Which was great, because I started to think: Well, that that's a good question. And so I actually had to sit down and say: Well, what is the reason? And I have a good reason for it. Because I live in a very small country, which has a very limited market. So if I want to expand my live career, I have to go outside my country. But it was a good thing. You said: What is the reason for this? And so you get questions that you would never have thought of yourself. Because it's just sort of, it's automatic: Yes, of course, for every Icelandic artists. Yeah, you have to leave Iceland if you're going to do anything. But I had never thought of that before.

Mariana Tirsa 18:34

It's good to pause sometimes, you know, and having somebody who's kind of watching everything that you're doing, can be like: Oh, interesting, how does this fit into all of his goals that he said earlier, too? Because you're kind of aware of everything that the person is working on. So you can be like... Sometimes in those big Facebook groups that were a part of, people don't... You have these small little conversations that are super helpful, but people don't know everything that you're working on all the time.

Eyvindur Karlsson 19:05

It's a different relationship completely different. And I think, in addition to all this, to all the help and everything, you form a relationship. And even though this is the first time we're actually speaking without a keyboard, you know, I think our relationship has gone from... We're aware of certain aspects of each other's careers where it's very helpful for me to be able, if I have something on my mind, I can go and I can talk to you about it in our little accountability group. And you sort of know where I'm coming from whereas people in those larger groups would not, really. I would have to do a lot of explaining. In order for it to make sense.

Mariana Tirsa 19:47

Yeah, we start to develop a history of each other's work and career. I didn't really think about that. But it does become really helpful, especially as time passes, and we start to have a bigger understanding of everything we're each doing or have done, that becomes a valuable resource. I didn't realize that until you just said that. And that happens over... You know, it happens pretty quickly, actually.

Eyvindur Karlsson 20:12

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think there's also... You talked about having somebody locally, that's obviously super important as well. And for me, you know, I have a band, that's sort of my... And you talked about your band, but I think that's a different dynamic, maybe. But I think this sort of situation is just super useful for different reasons.

Mariana Tirsa 20:39

And also, I think, when I originally put it out there, and I think this is important when you're finding an accountability partner, is I think it's important to kind of find people who have similar intentions of what they're trying to do with their career, with their music. I think they can be at very different phases of things. But I think they have to have a certain... You have to be in similar places of your commitment to some point, I think. It's probably true with any kind of... If you want to go work out with someone, and one person only wants to do two minutes and you want to do two hours, you're just not going to do very well together.

Eyvindur Karlsson 21:27

Great point or, you know, if one person wants to go deadlift, and the other one wants to go on the treadmill, that's obviously not... You're not working out together. Yeah, that's a great point, you know. You have to be, not necessarily in the same space... A folk artist and a hip hop artist could work together if they're trying to pursue similar goals. I think is what you're saying,

Mariana Tirsa 21:53

Yeah, because I remember when I put the first notice out, I remember thinking: I've got to be really clear about what I need. So that it doesn't become a waste of my time. And so I remember thinking about it a lot. And I don't even remember what my original post was. But I think I just remember spending time getting really clear. Like, why am I doing this? And I remember going: Okay, I really want to release my music. And I'm really struggling with the steps of that. So I really need someone who is kind of that have either done that, or they have a goal for that. And so they're focused on that. So I don't know if I put that specifically about releasing music, but I remember putting out several things that I was like: This is what I'm working on, looking for other people who have the same interest to do this in their life.

Eyvindur Karlsson 22:47

Yeah, I think you did, because that was exactly what I was struggling with at the time as well. So it certainly helped me and it did definitely motivate me to get started, to start the crowdfunding campaign, which is incredibly intimidating. It's one of the most stressful things I've ever done, but one of the most rewarding as well. But you know, just having that... Yes, now I have the motivation. Now I have the drive. And that definitely helped me to get started. because like you said you have somebody and you were doing things and taking steps. And so I had to do things and take steps. And so it just felt... Yeah, it was so helpful.

There's just two of us. There was a third.

Mariana Tirsa 23:40

There was a third person, and I think that she ended up leaving, because it was the thing of like, not really being in the same place. And so it just kind of wasn't going to fit right.

Eyvindur Karlsson 23:53

Yeah, I think that's true. It's been the two of us... She wasn't really there. Except for, like, a week or something. But, you know, because there's two of us. And I'm just thinking, do you think that's the magic number? Do you think? I mean, would it be just as good with four people or with six people?

Mariana Tirsa 24:15

I don't know. My thought is: Absolutely with a couple more people would be great is my thought. I think there's probably a point where it becomes too many people in terms of this type of accountability. Then it kind of turns into more of a support Facebook group or support group. like, It changes. I'm not sure what that number is.

Eyvindur Karlsson 24:37

Yeah, exactly.

Mariana Tirsa 24:41

But I think probably, I'm thinking between three and six people is probably great, because if like, you know... We had a period the last maybe two months, three months where we weren't as active in it, but a couple people, then you know, when one person is having to deal with some family issue or something and they can't be active in it, then somebody else can step in and be supportive. So yeah, I think probably couple more people would be really good.

Eyvindur Karlsson 25:04

Yeah, I think that's probably true. But again, not too many.

But just in terms of people that... And of course, this could work for any creative people, I think. It's not obviously something that is just for musicians. This could work if you're a writer, if you're a painter or whatever you are. I think this is absolutely... And I think it could be very vital for people if you are stuck. Because for me, and I think for you as well, it's sort of got the gears going, you know what I mean?

Mariana Tirsa 25:41

Yes, and it's also I think, like you said earlier, it feels like you have someone there. If you feel like you're going: Gosh, I'm really feeling unsupported right now, I'm really confused, or I just need somebody to bounce something off of, I always know that I could come to our group, and like: Hey, I really have this one thing. I don't necessarily call upon it all the time. But just to even have that in the back of one's mind is like, you know... You're kind of creating this vessel of how you're going to be an artist in the world. And certain people become sources of strength and support for you. I have never been able to be an artist alone. It's a very, kind of, communal experience for me, even if I'm songwriting by myself, there's always somebody else that I'm bouncing ideas off of. I really believe, and personally, as somebody who has a sensitive or artistic temperament, having people like that is pretty essential for me. So I think all creative people could use these types of accountability relationships. And that accountability, you know, can be a turnoff to some people. And then there might be some other words that describe what we're doing.

Eyvindur Karlsson 27:19

Yeah, yeah, I guess. And yeah, accountability, that's true, it can come off as maybe a little harsh to a certain extent, but you know, it is just having somebody to bounce ideas off of. Having somebody to motivate you, when you just don't feel motivated at all is super helpful. Especially if you are in... Because musicians do collaborate a lot, and very few can just do everything. You need people to work with, most of the time. But you know, if you're a writer, or painter then that is very solitary. And I think it has to help. I mean, I know, I've done a lot of creative writing, and it just helps so much to have somebody. And in that I have my friend, and he's a writer as well. And so we bounce ideas off of each other all the time. And that's super helpful.

So yeah, I think it's just one of the best things that you can do.

Mariana Tirsa 28:17

Yeah, and what's different about what I started, and what we're been doing is, I think we really focused on the, the promotion of our work and getting our work into the world, which is all music business. Which is a whole different beast than the creative side. That's where we're our happiest in a way. And then we have this beast. It's a heroic adventure challenge of getting our work out there. And that's where I feel we kind of just need to really be... That's where I was feeling really isolated, and really alone about how challenging it is to promote and wear two hats. You're the artist, then you're the business person.

Eyvindur Karlsson 29:11

Exactly.

Mariana Tirsa 29:11

It's just a lot to take on. And so that's the other thing. When you focus on this aspect of the promotion, which a lot of artists, whether they're writers or painters or musicians, they get to this part, and they're like: I can't do it. It's just too much. And it makes sense. It is too much. That's why when you get a label, you have a team of 10 people working on releasing your record.

Eyvindur Karlsson 29:57

And that's sort of the direction that I've taken with this podcast. Because that is, for not just musicians, I think, for any creative person and for any artist, well, I mean, most... It can be very tricky. How do you actually market yourself and make a living off what you do? And how does this be your job and still be your passion? And that's what I'm always curious about myself, and I'm always trying to explore that and figure that out. And so I figured, yeah, that's what I want to do with his podcast. So that's my focus now.

And that's why I thought this, because this is really, really good. Because one of the biggest problems, and the one that I always struggle with, is to just keep going and to keep at it, and not just get discouraged when I have to actually do the business side of things, or, you know, whatever the case may be, I mean, there are certainly other things that can be tricky about this and just having somebody to be accountable to has been a lifesaver for me.

Mariana Tirsa 30:51

Yeah. I'm realizing the importance of these relationships, as creative people. If you look and read biographies of artists, whether painters, writers, you know, they often had these relationships. Pure relationships, you know, like Renoir and Monet. They would paint together, you know... We study these people in isolation. But all of them have had groups of peers, that they had, like comrades. We don't really value how those relationships supported those artists to continue their work. Maybe some of those artists at times were like, really down and out. And one of the other artists was like: Hey, you know, you got to keep going, or: Your work is really important, don't stop. I read once that there was a period of time when, I think it was Monet, couldn't feed his family or didn't have money for paints. And Renoir's family brought them food, and brought them some paints. I don't think we work in isolation, truly, as artists, and yet we are in a weird, modern life where that isn't easy to create anymore, those artists circles.

I guess some people are blessed and they find that in their local community, but a lot of people don't have those artists circles anymore.

Eyvindur Karlsson 32:28

That's very true. And, you know, it's ironic that social media has made it so much easier. And yet, somehow we seem to be getting more disconnected.

Mariana Tirsa 32:41

Yeah, it's an interesting time.

Eyvindur Karlsson 32:45

Yeah, it is. But, if someone listening wanted to do this, what do you think are some things that you have to have in mind when you want to go and find somebody as an accountability partner?

Mariana Tirsa 33:03

Well, I think that, from my experience, is just to start with this little self examination of how you work. How do you work best and what idoesn't work well for you in terms of working with other people? And so once you get clear of like... And also, how do you respond better? Are you a person who needs to talk on a phone? Or do you do need to do things in person? Or is online, just typing, fine for you? So I think just a little self awareness first, so that you get clear. Okay, I want to do... I'm a person who loves to do something in person, say. Okay, I want to go and, and I need... And then getting clear: What are you really needing support on? And you feel like: Oh, well, this part is actually working well, but this part, gosh, this is the part I'm really struggling with. And then get clear: what is it that you want your goal to be in that area? So I think I found it helpful to not just be: Everything. Oh, this is the entire creativity accountability group. It was helpful to get clear on a certain area. Because that way you actually can draw people in who have the same intention and goals, where if you're just too broad, you're just going to get people all over the place. And then when you're together, no one knows what to do. Right? You need clear intention. So then I would say the next step would be to get clear what you need. And what is that? What is the boundary of what you're, you're trying to stay within there? And then the third step, once you're clear on that, then I would actually put it out there somewhere. Whether it's through different groups. That's how I did it, in a big Facebook mastermind group, I put it out there. I guess, if no one had responded, I probably would have tried other Facebook groups. And then if that hadn't responded, I might have tried reaching out to people locally.

Yeah, so then I would start, you know, reaching out to people and see who responds. And then I think if you're the person who's starting that, I think you need to be... There's a certain amount of leadership, at least at the beginning, I think later it can become a shared leadership, but at the beginning, you're the person who's initiating it. So you have to kind of set, kind of, the ground rules of what's going on.

But I think other people find that helpful, because they can know if they fit or they don't pretty quickly. And I don't know if that's what you experienced, but...

Eyvindur Karlsson 35:54

Definitely, yeah. Because it was very... Once I responded and the other person, you started a Facebook group. And we joined that, and you just you laid out everything that you had in mind, how you envisioned this going. You know, this is how we're going to do this, we're going to set out our little goals and ideas for timelines and things, and then we'll check in every so often, and that's what we did. And yeah, it was very, very clear from the very beginning what you envisioned. And then as I said, I aligned with that, and I guess the other person didn't as much, which was great.

Mariana Tirsa 36:31

Right. So I think, I guess I would suggest that. Getting really clear, if you're initiating the group. Get clear at the beginning, maybe have some type of agenda at the start. And that way, the people that fit and don't fit right at the beginning, that can be really clear. And then later on, you don't have to lead it. It becomes its own thing. And you can say that at the beginning: I'm not going to be the leader, but I'm going to get this rolling.

Yeah, and then I think after that, it's about feeding it and maintenance. And, as we're learning, it's going to have its ups and... You know, it's going to have its own rhythm. And you start to figure out, like, is this helpful or not helpful or?

Eyvindur Karlsson 37:25

Yeah, exactly. I think that's great advice. And, you know, I encourage anybody listening to, you know, if there's some aspect of your career that you feel, maybe you're spinning your wheels a little bit, or you're stuck, or you're overwhelmed, or something, definitely just go to a group that you're a member of and see if you can find somebody who's in a similar situation that you can, you know, help each other out and be accountable.

Mariana Tirsa 37:44

Absolutely.

Eyvindur Karlsson 37:49

Yeah. So, before we say goodbye, I havea new goal. I'm going to tell you about it live here. I didn't warn you about this before we started. But I did plan it beforehand, I just thought this is gonna be great. It might not be but who knows. Anyway. This is something that I'm going to do. So I don't know if I told you but I've mentioned it on this podcast before. I'm working on my next album, which is a collection of my theater music. Because I've written a lot of music for theater and performed it and I have a decent collection of songs from these productions I've been a part of. And so I started out recording. And my original plan was to play everything myself and do it all, which is probably a terrible plan. But so now I've changed my mind. And I'm gonna, I'm going to gather up all of my friends. And I'm going to do it. I'm going to put together a show, that I'm going to record live. And that's going to be the album, the theater album, because it's theater, it should be live.

Mariana Tirsa 39:04

Wow. Yes.

Eyvindur Karlsson 39:07

And so I have a time frame. Sort of. I haven't nailed down the exact date. But the show is going to go up in sometime, probably late August, around there. And I'm going to release the album before Christmas.

Mariana Tirsa 39:20

Oh, wow.

Eyvindur Karlsson 39:21

So this is my timeframe. And in our group, I'll lay it out a little bit more in more detail. But this is what I'm going to do. And I need you to hold me accountable.

Mariana Tirsa 39:33

Okay, well, you know, I... One of the things I love about us being accountability partners is that you really inspire me, because you are really always going for the next like, really bold thing for yourself. And every time you take one on you like do it and you finish it. And I'm just like, I'm just in great appreciation of your courage, and that I get to have such an inspiring accountability partner. I'm kind of going: What's my next bold move?

Eyvindur Karlsson 40:08

Well, thank you very much. This is great. So that's my plan. And we'll keep doing this. And, you know, I'm very good at making plans. But you know, again, a lot of those things I probably wouldn't have finished if I didn't have a great accountability partner. So I think that's a great note to end on. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. And we'll see each other in our group. But before we say goodbye, where can people find your music and your stuff? Where can people go to find you?

Mariana Tirsa 40:43

Yeah, thanks. Well, I go under a moniker named Runaway Horse. And so my band... I don't have a band right now. But I just have a website that is runawayhorseband.com. On Facebook: runawayhorseband, and then I'm pretty active on Instagram. And that's @runawayhorsemusic. And I guess if anyone was deeply inspired to be an accountability partner with us, they can always reach out to you, I guess, on the podcast. Yeah, and we can let you know what our group is focused on more specifically, and see if it was a good match if we were ready for another awesome, exciting, cool accountability partner.

Eyvindur Karlsson 41:29

All right. Well, thank you so much, and talk later.

Mariana Tirsa 41:33

Okay. Thank you. Bye, bye.

Eyvindur Karlsson 41:36

Alright, I hope you enjoyed that. I know I did. And I encourage you to go and find yourself an accountability partner or mastermind group of some kind. It's going to help you a lot, especially if you're a solo artist of any kind and you need something to keep yourself accountable. It works wonders. If you like this show, please consider subscribing. And I would love it if you leave an honest review wherever you listen to podcasts. That really helps. And if you want to get in touch, you can find me on artism.fm. And you'll find the show notes for this episode at artism.fm/ap5. And I'd love it if you leave a comment or send me a message wherever. You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/ArtemistPodcast. And don't be a stranger. I'd love to hear from you. So I will talk to you next time. See you later. Bye bye

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